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selinger
Hi,

this is a newbie question. I am trying to install Ekiga on an Ubuntu
19.04 system. I ran into several problems:

* there doesn't seem to be an ekiga package in Ubuntu 19.04. At any
  rate, "apt install ekiga" said there was no such package.

* I downloaded the sources. "configure" complained about a missing
  Boost library, so I installed it with "apt install libboost-dev".
  Now I get the following:

checking for boostlib >= 1.34... yes
checking whether the Boost::Signals library is available... yes
configure: error: Could not find a version of the library!

  Since the previous two answers were "yes", I am not sure what is
  missing on the last line, nor how to install it. I'm not sure what
  "the library" is, if it is not "boostlib >= 1.34" or
  "Boost::Signals".

Do you have some up-to-date installation instructions? I did check
the wiki at
"http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Installing_Ekiga_on_Linux", but it
hasn't been updated since 2013 (the Ubuntu instructions date to 2011).

Or if this project is dead, is there a replacement that you can
recommend?

Thanks, -- Peter

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On 17/09/2019, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> this is a newbie question. I am trying to install Ekiga on an Ubuntu
> 19.04 system. I ran into several problems:
>
> * there doesn't seem to be an ekiga package in Ubuntu 19.04. At any
>   rate, "apt install ekiga" said there was no such package.
>
> * I downloaded the sources. "configure" complained about a missing
>   Boost library, so I installed it with "apt install libboost-dev".
>   Now I get the following:
>
> checking for boostlib >= 1.34... yes
> checking whether the Boost::Signals library is available... yes
> configure: error: Could not find a version of the library!
>
>   Since the previous two answers were "yes", I am not sure what is
>   missing on the last line, nor how to install it. I'm not sure what
>   "the library" is, if it is not "boostlib >= 1.34" or
>   "Boost::Signals".
>
> Do you have some up-to-date installation instructions? I did check
> the wiki at
> "http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Installing_Ekiga_on_Linux", but it
> hasn't been updated since 2013 (the Ubuntu instructions date to 2011).
>
> Or if this project is dead, is there a replacement that you can
> recommend?
>
> Thanks, -- Peter
>

Hello.

I believe that you are better not trying to install Ekiga, especcially
as a new user.

No new development is being done, and, Ekiga is no longer fully
supported, insofar as I am aware.

Whilst some people have an ideological objection to it, because it is
now owned and operated by Microsoft, and, also, its functionality has
been progressively reduced, over the years, since Microsoft took it
over, I recommend trying Skype, which is available for Ubuntu Linux,
of which, I currently run UbuntuMATE 16.04 (as my preferred OS) and
18.04; both are LTS versions.


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Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992

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selinger
Hi Bret,

thanks for your reply. Of course I am already a Skype user. But I am
specifically interested in finding some open source software that can
connect to existing H.323 teleconferencing equipment.

Occasionally someone requires this. For example, this week I must
participate remotely in a Ph.D. defense in France and the use of Skype
has been specifically forbidden. (Maybe for ideological reasons, as
you say, or more likely, because it is unreliable enough that people
usually spend most of their time worrying about resuming dropped
calls, rather than getting on with the meeting).  In that situation, I
usually have to use some proprietary Cisco client, but if a Linux
solution exists, that would be great.

There seem to exist some H.323 libraries, such as H323Plus, but I
cannot find any working software that actually uses those libraries.

It is not a problem for me to use software that is no longer being
actively developed. If it worked in 2012, it must in principle still
work now. So if there is some way to get Ekiga, or something similar,
to work, I would not mind using it.

Thanks, -- Peter

Bret Busby via ekiga-list wrote:

>
> On 17/09/2019, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > this is a newbie question. I am trying to install Ekiga on an Ubuntu
> > 19.04 system. I ran into several problems:
> >
> > * there doesn't seem to be an ekiga package in Ubuntu 19.04. At any
> >   rate, "apt install ekiga" said there was no such package.
> >
> > * I downloaded the sources. "configure" complained about a missing
> >   Boost library, so I installed it with "apt install libboost-dev".
> >   Now I get the following:
> >
> > checking for boostlib >= 1.34... yes
> > checking whether the Boost::Signals library is available... yes
> > configure: error: Could not find a version of the library!
> >
> >   Since the previous two answers were "yes", I am not sure what is
> >   missing on the last line, nor how to install it. I'm not sure what
> >   "the library" is, if it is not "boostlib >= 1.34" or
> >   "Boost::Signals".
> >
> > Do you have some up-to-date installation instructions? I did check
> > the wiki at
> > "http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Installing_Ekiga_on_Linux", but it
> > hasn't been updated since 2013 (the Ubuntu instructions date to 2011).
> >
> > Or if this project is dead, is there a replacement that you can
> > recommend?
> >
> > Thanks, -- Peter
> >
>
> Hello.
>
> I believe that you are better not trying to install Ekiga, especcially
> as a new user.
>
> No new development is being done, and, Ekiga is no longer fully
> supported, insofar as I am aware.
>
> Whilst some people have an ideological objection to it, because it is
> now owned and operated by Microsoft, and, also, its functionality has
> been progressively reduced, over the years, since Microsoft took it
> over, I recommend trying Skype, which is available for Ubuntu Linux,
> of which, I currently run UbuntuMATE 16.04 (as my preferred OS) and
> 18.04; both are LTS versions.
>
>
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> ..............
>
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>  you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
>  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
>  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>  written by Douglas Adams,
>  published by Pan Books, 1992
>
> ....................................................
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Eugen Dedu-2
Hi,

Ekiga is not ready for H323, unfortunately.  I tried it once with an
H323 equipment in France and it did not work.  There are still bugs
which make it unusable.

French researchers have access to a very easy to use videoconferencing
system, https://rendez-vous.renater.fr.  You have access when they
invite you for a given videoconference.  You just need a browser, no
need of plugins.  I regularly use it and it works pretty well.

Kind regards,
Eugen

On 17/09/2019 15:30, [hidden email] wrote:

> Hi Bret,
>
> thanks for your reply. Of course I am already a Skype user. But I am
> specifically interested in finding some open source software that can
> connect to existing H.323 teleconferencing equipment.
>
> Occasionally someone requires this. For example, this week I must
> participate remotely in a Ph.D. defense in France and the use of Skype
> has been specifically forbidden. (Maybe for ideological reasons, as
> you say, or more likely, because it is unreliable enough that people
> usually spend most of their time worrying about resuming dropped
> calls, rather than getting on with the meeting).  In that situation, I
> usually have to use some proprietary Cisco client, but if a Linux
> solution exists, that would be great.
>
> There seem to exist some H.323 libraries, such as H323Plus, but I
> cannot find any working software that actually uses those libraries.
>
> It is not a problem for me to use software that is no longer being
> actively developed. If it worked in 2012, it must in principle still
> work now. So if there is some way to get Ekiga, or something similar,
> to work, I would not mind using it.
>
> Thanks, -- Peter
>
> Bret Busby via ekiga-list wrote:
>>
>> On 17/09/2019, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> this is a newbie question. I am trying to install Ekiga on an Ubuntu
>>> 19.04 system. I ran into several problems:
>>>
>>> * there doesn't seem to be an ekiga package in Ubuntu 19.04. At any
>>>    rate, "apt install ekiga" said there was no such package.
>>>
>>> * I downloaded the sources. "configure" complained about a missing
>>>    Boost library, so I installed it with "apt install libboost-dev".
>>>    Now I get the following:
>>>
>>> checking for boostlib >= 1.34... yes
>>> checking whether the Boost::Signals library is available... yes
>>> configure: error: Could not find a version of the library!
>>>
>>>    Since the previous two answers were "yes", I am not sure what is
>>>    missing on the last line, nor how to install it. I'm not sure what
>>>    "the library" is, if it is not "boostlib >= 1.34" or
>>>    "Boost::Signals".
>>>
>>> Do you have some up-to-date installation instructions? I did check
>>> the wiki at
>>> "http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Installing_Ekiga_on_Linux", but it
>>> hasn't been updated since 2013 (the Ubuntu instructions date to 2011).
>>>
>>> Or if this project is dead, is there a replacement that you can
>>> recommend?
>>>
>>> Thanks, -- Peter
>>>
>>
>> Hello.
>>
>> I believe that you are better not trying to install Ekiga, especcially
>> as a new user.
>>
>> No new development is being done, and, Ekiga is no longer fully
>> supported, insofar as I am aware.
>>
>> Whilst some people have an ideological objection to it, because it is
>> now owned and operated by Microsoft, and, also, its functionality has
>> been progressively reduced, over the years, since Microsoft took it
>> over, I recommend trying Skype, which is available for Ubuntu Linux,
>> of which, I currently run UbuntuMATE 16.04 (as my preferred OS) and
>> 18.04; both are LTS versions.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bret Busby
>> Armadale
>> West Australia
>> ..............
>>
>> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>>   you'll know what the answer means."
>> - Deep Thought,
>>   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
>>   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>>   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>>   written by Douglas Adams,
>>   published by Pan Books, 1992
>>
>> ....................................................
>> _______________________________________________
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>> [hidden email]
>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
>>
>
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selinger
Hi Eugen,

thanks! Yes, we are using something similar to the link you gave.

Still it is oddly frustrating that there is no open source
solution. The H.323 standard is a 20-year old open standard, and there
seem to have been various projects that are all abandoned. I might yet
try to resurrect one of them, if I have time!

Thanks for the information. -- Peter

Eugen Dedu wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Ekiga is not ready for H323, unfortunately.  I tried it once with an
> H323 equipment in France and it did not work.  There are still bugs
> which make it unusable.
>
> French researchers have access to a very easy to use videoconferencing
> system, https://rendez-vous.renater.fr.  You have access when they
> invite you for a given videoconference.  You just need a browser, no
> need of plugins.  I regularly use it and it works pretty well.
>
> Kind regards,
> Eugen
>
> On 17/09/2019 15:30, [hidden email] wrote:
> > Hi Bret,
> >
> > thanks for your reply. Of course I am already a Skype user. But I am
> > specifically interested in finding some open source software that can
> > connect to existing H.323 teleconferencing equipment.
> >
> > Occasionally someone requires this. For example, this week I must
> > participate remotely in a Ph.D. defense in France and the use of Skype
> > has been specifically forbidden. (Maybe for ideological reasons, as
> > you say, or more likely, because it is unreliable enough that people
> > usually spend most of their time worrying about resuming dropped
> > calls, rather than getting on with the meeting).  In that situation, I
> > usually have to use some proprietary Cisco client, but if a Linux
> > solution exists, that would be great.
> >
> > There seem to exist some H.323 libraries, such as H323Plus, but I
> > cannot find any working software that actually uses those libraries.
> >
> > It is not a problem for me to use software that is no longer being
> > actively developed. If it worked in 2012, it must in principle still
> > work now. So if there is some way to get Ekiga, or something similar,
> > to work, I would not mind using it.
> >
> > Thanks, -- Peter
> >
> > Bret Busby via ekiga-list wrote:
> >>
> >> On 17/09/2019, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> this is a newbie question. I am trying to install Ekiga on an Ubuntu
> >>> 19.04 system. I ran into several problems:
> >>>
> >>> * there doesn't seem to be an ekiga package in Ubuntu 19.04. At any
> >>>    rate, "apt install ekiga" said there was no such package.
> >>>
> >>> * I downloaded the sources. "configure" complained about a missing
> >>>    Boost library, so I installed it with "apt install libboost-dev".
> >>>    Now I get the following:
> >>>
> >>> checking for boostlib >= 1.34... yes
> >>> checking whether the Boost::Signals library is available... yes
> >>> configure: error: Could not find a version of the library!
> >>>
> >>>    Since the previous two answers were "yes", I am not sure what is
> >>>    missing on the last line, nor how to install it. I'm not sure what
> >>>    "the library" is, if it is not "boostlib >= 1.34" or
> >>>    "Boost::Signals".
> >>>
> >>> Do you have some up-to-date installation instructions? I did check
> >>> the wiki at
> >>> "http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Installing_Ekiga_on_Linux", but it
> >>> hasn't been updated since 2013 (the Ubuntu instructions date to 2011).
> >>>
> >>> Or if this project is dead, is there a replacement that you can
> >>> recommend?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, -- Peter
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hello.
> >>
> >> I believe that you are better not trying to install Ekiga, especcially
> >> as a new user.
> >>
> >> No new development is being done, and, Ekiga is no longer fully
> >> supported, insofar as I am aware.
> >>
> >> Whilst some people have an ideological objection to it, because it is
> >> now owned and operated by Microsoft, and, also, its functionality has
> >> been progressively reduced, over the years, since Microsoft took it
> >> over, I recommend trying Skype, which is available for Ubuntu Linux,
> >> of which, I currently run UbuntuMATE 16.04 (as my preferred OS) and
> >> 18.04; both are LTS versions.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bret Busby
> >> Armadale
> >> West Australia
> >> ..............
> >>
> >> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
> >>   you'll know what the answer means."
> >> - Deep Thought,
> >>   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
> >>   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
> >>   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
> >>   written by Douglas Adams,
> >>   published by Pan Books, 1992
> >>
> >> ....................................................
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> [hidden email]
> >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > [hidden email]
> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
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Please remove my email from this list

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Hi Peter,

server side you have the GNU Gatekeeper (https://www.gnugk.org) that
uses H.323 and is still under active development.

Unfortunately nonw of the available OpenSource endpoints is really
production quality. See my list at
https://www.gnugk.org/h323-endpoint.html

I think you best bet are the free (but not open) mobile H.323
endpoints, like RealPresence or Yealink VC (also on my list).

Regards,
Jan

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[hidden email] wrote:

> Hi Eugen,
>
> thanks! Yes, we are using something similar to the link you gave.
>
> Still it is oddly frustrating that there is no open source
> solution. The H.323 standard is a 20-year old open standard, and there
> seem to have been various projects that are all abandoned. I might yet
> try to resurrect one of them, if I have time!
>
> Thanks for the information. -- Peter
>
> Eugen Dedu wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Ekiga is not ready for H323, unfortunately.  I tried it once with an
> > H323 equipment in France and it did not work.  There are still bugs
> > which make it unusable.
> >
> > French researchers have access to a very easy to use videoconferencing
> > system, https://rendez-vous.renater.fr.  You have access when they
> > invite you for a given videoconference.  You just need a browser, no
> > need of plugins.  I regularly use it and it works pretty well.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Eugen
> >
> > On 17/09/2019 15:30, [hidden email] wrote:  
> > > Hi Bret,
> > >
> > > thanks for your reply. Of course I am already a Skype user. But I am
> > > specifically interested in finding some open source software that can
> > > connect to existing H.323 teleconferencing equipment.
> > >
> > > Occasionally someone requires this. For example, this week I must
> > > participate remotely in a Ph.D. defense in France and the use of Skype
> > > has been specifically forbidden. (Maybe for ideological reasons, as
> > > you say, or more likely, because it is unreliable enough that people
> > > usually spend most of their time worrying about resuming dropped
> > > calls, rather than getting on with the meeting).  In that situation, I
> > > usually have to use some proprietary Cisco client, but if a Linux
> > > solution exists, that would be great.
> > >
> > > There seem to exist some H.323 libraries, such as H323Plus, but I
> > > cannot find any working software that actually uses those libraries.
> > >
> > > It is not a problem for me to use software that is no longer being
> > > actively developed. If it worked in 2012, it must in principle still
> > > work now. So if there is some way to get Ekiga, or something similar,
> > > to work, I would not mind using it.
> > >
> > > Thanks, -- Peter
> > >
> > > Bret Busby via ekiga-list wrote:  
> > >>
> > >> On 17/09/2019, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:  
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> this is a newbie question. I am trying to install Ekiga on an Ubuntu
> > >>> 19.04 system. I ran into several problems:
> > >>>
> > >>> * there doesn't seem to be an ekiga package in Ubuntu 19.04. At any
> > >>>    rate, "apt install ekiga" said there was no such package.
> > >>>
> > >>> * I downloaded the sources. "configure" complained about a missing
> > >>>    Boost library, so I installed it with "apt install libboost-dev".
> > >>>    Now I get the following:
> > >>>
> > >>> checking for boostlib >= 1.34... yes
> > >>> checking whether the Boost::Signals library is available... yes
> > >>> configure: error: Could not find a version of the library!
> > >>>
> > >>>    Since the previous two answers were "yes", I am not sure what is
> > >>>    missing on the last line, nor how to install it. I'm not sure what
> > >>>    "the library" is, if it is not "boostlib >= 1.34" or
> > >>>    "Boost::Signals".
> > >>>
> > >>> Do you have some up-to-date installation instructions? I did check
> > >>> the wiki at
> > >>> "http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Installing_Ekiga_on_Linux", but it
> > >>> hasn't been updated since 2013 (the Ubuntu instructions date to 2011).
> > >>>
> > >>> Or if this project is dead, is there a replacement that you can
> > >>> recommend?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks, -- Peter
> > >>>  
> > >>
> > >> Hello.
> > >>
> > >> I believe that you are better not trying to install Ekiga, especcially
> > >> as a new user.
> > >>
> > >> No new development is being done, and, Ekiga is no longer fully
> > >> supported, insofar as I am aware.
> > >>
> > >> Whilst some people have an ideological objection to it, because it is
> > >> now owned and operated by Microsoft, and, also, its functionality has
> > >> been progressively reduced, over the years, since Microsoft took it
> > >> over, I recommend trying Skype, which is available for Ubuntu Linux,
> > >> of which, I currently run UbuntuMATE 16.04 (as my preferred OS) and
> > >> 18.04; both are LTS versions.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Bret Busby
> > >> Armadale
> > >> West Australia
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On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, [hidden email] wrote:

> thanks for your reply. Of course I am already a Skype user. But I am
> specifically interested in finding some open source software that can
> connect to existing H.323 teleconferencing equipment.

YATE does sip and h323.  I also saw from this review that there are SIP
to h323 gateways like Seevogh that let you use SIP clients with h323
conferencing.

https://sparcie.wordpress.com/2014/01/24/sip-and-h323-voip-telephony-clients/

> Occasionally someone requires this. For example, this week I must
> participate remotely in a Ph.D. defense in France and the use of Skype
> has been specifically forbidden. (Maybe for ideological reasons, as
> you say, or more likely, because it is unreliable enough that people
> usually spend most of their time worrying about resuming dropped
> calls, rather than getting on with the meeting).  In that situation, I

Skype also works by downloading executable code (codecs) from random
nodes on the internet.  Its security depends on Parties of Evil Intent
not having the brains to disassemble and reverse engineer the Skype
binaries.  Thanks, but no thanks.  (Hopefully, said code must be signed
by the Skype software owners, but who knows, it is a black box.)

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On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, Bret Busby via ekiga-list wrote:

> I believe that you are better not trying to install Ekiga, especcially
> as a new user.
>
> No new development is being done, and, Ekiga is no longer fully
> supported, insofar as I am aware.

Linphone is a currently supported SIP client.

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On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 20:46:09 +0800
Bret Busby via ekiga-list <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 17/09/2019, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > this is a newbie question. I am trying to install Ekiga on an Ubuntu
> > 19.04 system. I ran into several problems:
> >
> > * there doesn't seem to be an ekiga package in Ubuntu 19.04. At any
> >   rate, "apt install ekiga" said there was no such package.
> >
> > * I downloaded the sources. "configure" complained about a missing
> >   Boost library, so I installed it with "apt install libboost-dev".
> >   Now I get the following:
> >
> > checking for boostlib >= 1.34... yes
> > checking whether the Boost::Signals library is available... yes
> > configure: error: Could not find a version of the library!
> >
> >   Since the previous two answers were "yes", I am not sure what is
> >   missing on the last line, nor how to install it. I'm not sure what
> >   "the library" is, if it is not "boostlib >= 1.34" or
> >   "Boost::Signals".
> >
> > Do you have some up-to-date installation instructions? I did check
> > the wiki at
> > "http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Installing_Ekiga_on_Linux", but it
> > hasn't been updated since 2013 (the Ubuntu instructions date to 2011).
> >
> > Or if this project is dead, is there a replacement that you can
> > recommend?
> >
> > Thanks, -- Peter
> >  

  Not sure if this is any help, but maybe also try Retroshare
  https://retroshare.cc/

  I have wanted to use Ekiga for years, even way back when it was some other
  name I can't remember at the moment. Unfortunately I have few friends who care
  about computer use or anything they use on them (they're all the kind who
  could care less, just so it works, and of course they're all M$ users too), so
  I never was able to install and use Ekiga, though I sure wish I could.
  Presently, if there's any cost whatsoever involved, I'm unable to use it as
  I've fallen on hard times and barely able to keep a roof over my head much
  less spend a few dollars on something for software use.

  Hopefully though that Retroshare thing may help. Let us know if you do at
  least try it...though I suppose it'd be a bit rude here on the Ekiga list (my
  apologies to the Ekiga owners/makers!).

        John

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